Gomeroi People Native Title Claim Group
Claim area bounded by the New South Wales / Queensland border in the north, the western slopes of the New England Tableland in the East, the Hunter and Goulburn Rivers in the South and the Castlereagh River in the west.
Descendants of the following
Thomas Pitt (born in 1838)
Billy Barlow (born in Tycannah, 1835)
Peter James Cutmore (born in Tycannah, 1849)
James Swan (born in Combadello, 1825)
Harriett Wyndham (born in Mungie Bundie, 1863)
William Levy (born in Terry Hie Hie, 1867)
Sally Nerang (born in Terry Hie Hie circa 1840)
Eliza Barlow (born in Terry Hie Hie circa 1860)
Kitty Dangar (born in Walgett, 1837)
William Clark (born in Collarenebri, 1845)
Murray Ippai (born in Collarenebri)
Mary Ann Ippai (born on the Barwon River)
Edward Morgan (born in Dungalear, 1855)
Nancy Morgan (born in Dungalear, 1861)
Robert Nicholls (born in Collarenebri, 1842)
Frank Mundy (born in Collymongle, 1872)
Lena Combo (born in Mogil Mogil, 1876)
Jack Thunderbolt (born in Walgett, 1847)
Betsy Yates (aka Polly Yates and Polly Burras) (born on the Barwon River circa 1860)
Jenny (born in Walgett circa 1840)
Dick Silk (born in Walgett)
Fred Parker (born in Gingie, 1864)
Murray Rook (born in Collarenebri, 1865)
Ethel Tinker (born in Mercadool circa 1878)
Emily McPherson (born in Collarenebri, 1892)
Billy Whitford (born in 1828)
King Robert Cobbler (born in Mogil Mogil, 1855)
Billy Wightman (born in Kunopia, 1813)
John McGrady (born in Moree, 1853)
William Dennison (born in Kunopia, 1843)
Charlie Dennison (born circa 1846-1866)
Alice Dennison (born in Moree circa 1863 -1873)
Lucy Long (born in Boomi circa 1850)
Minnie Lance (born in Boomi circa 1868)
Harry Denham Charles Cubby (born on the Boomi River)
Sarah Wilson aka Sarah Murphy aka Sarah Witman (born in Kunopia, 1868)
Reuben Bartman (born in Boomi in 1876)
Billy Dunn (born in Mungindi)
William Edwards (born in Thallon)
Queen Susan (born in Welltown)
Phoebe Munday-Williams (born in Mungindi, 1864)
George Bennett (born in Mungindi, 1873)
Amelia Bell aka Amelia Brown (born in Bingara, 1862)
William Snow (born in Tamworth or Moonbi, 1855)
Francis Snow (born in Tamworth, 1858)
Matilda Wyndham (born in Bingara in 1842)
Thomas Duke (born in Bingara, 1847)
Teasie Griffen aka Jessie Griffen aka Ellen Griffen (born in Barraba,1859)
Mary Anne Hammond (born in Tamworth, 1836)
Elizabeth Guest aka Eliza Gillan (born in Liverpool Plains, 1840)
Jane Maloney (born in Walhallow, 1838)
Mary Ann Healy (born in Murrurundi, 1829)
Thomas Taylor (born in Coolah, 1836)
Elizabeth Loder aka Elizabeth Bates (born in Murrurundi, 1843)
Sarah Gatehouse (born in Aberdeen, 1835)
William Duncomb (born in Muswellbrook circa 1830)
John Morris Tighe (born in 1852)
Susan Bishop-Young aka Susan Dangar (born in Warialda)
Sarah Murphy (born in 1846)
Thomas French (born in Scone, 1825)
John Thomas Bates (born on the Mooki River, 1840)
Alexander Nean (born in Liverpool Plains, 1843)
David Johnson (born in Cassilis circa 1838-1844)
Mary Orr (aka Nellie Orr) (born in Garrawilla, 1853)
Julia Campbell (born on the Castlereagh River circa 1833-1834)
Annie Jendis (born in Burbagate, 1845)
Harriet Munro (born in Gunnedah, 1867)
Alice Eliza Natty (born on the Namoi River near Boggabri, 1857)
James Tighe (born in Coonabarabran, 1842)
William Tighe (born in Toorawandi, 1844)
Patrick Tighe (born in Coonabarabran, 1852)
Jane Tighe (born in 1864)
Mary Jane Griffin aka ‘Old Ibidah’
Susan Slater (born in Coonabarabran, 1839)
Thomas Leslie (born in Kirban circa 1850-1854)
James Leslie (born in Armatree, 1853)
Ellen Fuller (born in Rockgidgiel, 1854)
Sarah Hughes (born in Coonabarabran circa 1834-1859)
James Cole (born in 1845)
Mary Ann Hall (born on the Castlereagh River, 1840)
Samuel Bruce Smith (born in Tambar Springs circa 1860 – 1863)
Elizabeth Ann Smith (born in Mullaley, 1866)
William Green aka William Edwards (born in Kings Plains near Inverell, 1853)
Angus Landsborough (born in Newstead, 1867)
Patrick Landsborough (born in Newstead, 1872)
Alec Brown (born in Bundarra, 1873)
Margaret King (born in Gummin Gummin near Gulargambone circa 1854-1858)
William James King (born in Coonabarabran circa 1851-1853)
Florence May Blackman aka Louisa Florima Blackman (born in Coonamble, 1846)
Euphemia Blackman (born on the Castlereagh River, 1851)
Henry Arthur Yates (born in Coonamble, 1860)
Betsy Yates (born in Wingadee, 1854)
Annie Day (born in Bullarora Station near Coonamble circa 1871-1876)
Army Toomey (born in Wingadee near Coonamble, 1886)
Maria Clare Hall (born in Gulargambone circa 1830-1833)
Thomas Carney (born in Tonderburine, 1852)
Jim Duncan (born in Coonamble in 1854)
Thomas Reid (born in Cuttabri, 1840)
Thomas John Blacklock (born in Terembone, 1851)
Thomas Dangar (born in Drilldool, 1857)
Harry Doolan (born in Pilliga, 1855)
George Green (born in 1851) Lucy Barr (born in Boggabri, 1851)
Peggy Reid (born in Cuttabri, 1836)
Julia Jane Saunders (born in Wee Waa, 1845)
William Newman (born in Cuttabri, 1807)
Emma Dingwell (born in Bograh Station near Narrabri, 1864)
Kate Purser (born in Narrabri, 1863)
Mary Ann Lucas (born in Millie, 1840)
Frank Maybury (born in Killarney Station near Narrabri circa 1840)
Charlotte Hagan aka Charlotte Keegan (born in Narrabri circa 1850-1870)
Nellie Combo (born in Wallah Station near Narrabri, 1850)
Mary Peake (born in Narrabri, 1848)
Appeared in the Koori Mail of April 24, 2013
Was it Henry Arthur Yates? or Harry Arthur Yates? Was Betsy Yates originally Betsy Neil or Neal? otherwise known as old Bett from the Colless Farm?
ReplyDeleteIt was Harry Yates but Betsy was Neil. Betsy's daughter died in childbirth and Betsy took her children and moved in with Harry Yates and raised her Grandchildren some of whom took the name Yates and some Neil.
DeleteElaine, I'm from the Walter Neil & Betsy line, just put together a family tree on My Heritage with all my findings. Please feel free to contact me. Rani Neil
DeleteHey they I am a relative of Harry Denham & Charles Cubby I would love to know more about them and any native title land claim that they owned ? Or relatives who can claim land if they are no longer living.
DeleteRani, would like to be in contact. We have just discovered that Elizabeth Betsy Larkins is the daughter of our g. g. grandfather, James Larkins and a woman of Aboriginal descent. James, it seems was working or at a mission in the Pilliga area. We know a bit about James and his family, who came from Sussex as a boy, an immigrant. And then we know his life from when he marries Mary Jane Green in Wee Waa. We know very little about Mary Jane Green. She had 6 children, died young and is buried in Brewarrina cemetery. Please contact me if you get this. cheryla1@tpg.com.au
DeleteHe name is Alfred Henry Arthur 'Harry' Yates. Mary 'Betsy' Yates was married to James 'Jimmy' Duncan and Mary was also know as Polly and she was married to George Burrows before James Duncan. Mary 'Betsy'is my Great Great Grandmother. My family name is Combo from Collarenabri.
DeleteYou may be able to find out more from the Claim Group itself. Some names appear in he document at http://www.nntt.gov.au/Applications-And-Determinations/Registration-Test/Documents/2012/February%202012/NC11-6%202012012.pdf
ReplyDeleteI work in a youth program and have a young kid who doesn't know where there from but there great great great grand mother is in the list of people here. dose that mean there from Gomeroi ?? if so thank you so much.... it's going to bring tears to this young persons eye to have a sense of belonging and who could I contact to talk to about this ???
ReplyDeleteYes that person would be Gomeroi
DeleteI might be able to help, I'm from the Gomeroi and Wayilwan tribes. Identity to me is more precious than gold. I was once a troubled child, parents divorced and I got up to no good and the rest of it. Then my dad took me around to all the sites and places of where we come from. From then on I found out who I really was, it changed my whole outlook on life.There is nothing better than knowing where you come from and where you ultimately belong.
ReplyDeleteOnly too happy to help out.
Cheers
PT.
Do you have any information about William Newman? A family member put together a book of descendeants but it only goes back to around 1851... any information at all would be treasured.
DeleteCan you tell me about special gomeroi places around Namoi River?
DeleteHi My Name is Mary Kennedy I am from Walgett and I stumbled onto this site and I noticed my family names which is listed and their names are My Great Great Grandmother is Ethel Tinker from Mercadool Station near Walgett and My Great Great Grandfather is Murray Rook from Collarenebri can you please tell me why their names are there
ReplyDeleteTo be a member of the Native Title Claim Group a person must be descended from one of the people listed. An internet search for "Gomeroi People Native Title Claim" will give you more detailed information.
DeleteHi my surname is Ross apparently my ancestors are from gunadah great great grandfather was white named known as billy took his aboriginal girlfriend down to Sydney married had kids my family has no idea about her side was morris she was just known as nan any way anyone could help
DeleteHenry Arthur Yates biological descendants are: Alma Ruby (neeYates) Naden and Julia Harriet (neeYates) MacKenzie both born in Pilliga. Henry Arthur Yates senior
ReplyDeletean advocate for Aboriginal families in Wingadee Shire and Pilliga.Henry married Alice Leonard from Cuttabri.
I am also trying to find Henry Arthur Yates he was my grandfather Alma Ruby is my mum
DeleteI am a descendant of Emma Yates of Cryon and I would love to know more information regarding her place in the Yates family. Emma, my great grandmother became Emma Doolan and moved to Pilliga during WW1. Possible connection to Harry Doolan? My grandfather was one of the stolen gen.
ReplyDeleteHi would you happen to know any information on Harry Doolan? I've gathered that he has 7 Children and Wife by the of Mary Anne/Ann Green.. I am a descendant. My Grandmother's Great Grandfather or Great Great Grandfather is Harry Doolan
DeleteHarry Doolan
DeleteBorn at Pilliga NSW in 1855
Died in Pilliga 1917
His Wife was Mary Ann Green & Their Children are As follows
Arthur married Alice Leonard
Amy married Colin McKenzie
Bob married Charlotte Leonard
Jimmy married Loui Green
William married Hetty Green
Alice
Albert
Sarah
Harry Jnr married Emma.
Bob and charlotte are my great grandmother and grandfather my pops name is Geoffrey doolan (dec) that is their son
DeleteMy relative is Jenny/Jennie from Walgett(Bangate/Bangett station) who had a daughter Lucy 'Louisa' Nicholls. Does anyone know who Lucy's father was?
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ReplyDeleteWould anyone have information on Thomas Reid, born at Cuttabri in 1840. Thank you
ReplyDeleteThomas Reid was the tribal husband of Jeanie [fullblood] and they had two daughters Annie and Sarah ....Annie was the wife of Arthur Loder ....Annie and Arthur had a daughter Nellie Reid and she was the wife of Albert{BOB} Trindall .....Bob had a younger brother Reg who married into the Leonards ..... both the Trindall brothers had indigenous wifes and children .....my grandmother Unita Reid Trindall was one of the daughters of Bob and Nellie
DeleteThomas Reid is my family too I would love to find out more
DeleteNellie Reid was my great grandmother who was my great grandfather partner
DeleteMy grandmother was unita Reid
Annie was not the wife of Arthur Loder. There were three Trindall Brothers who had Aboriginal partners, Reginald Daniel Trindall was the only Trindall brother to marry his wife, Mary Jane (Molly) Leonard. Thomas Reid and Frederick Reid were brothers. Is there proof that Thomas Reid was the tribal husband of Jeanie ?
DeleteMy great grandfather was Bob Trindall who married Nellie Reid (great grandmother) Connected to Thomas Reid. After Nellie passed my great grandfather then married Agnus Towns another Gomeroi woman from the Pilliga/Cuttabri area. Would like to know more.
DeleteGreat Grand Father Bob Trindall never married Aggie Towns and Aggie was not a Gomeroi Woman. I thought you would have had that information in your research. Annie had brothers and sisters and I know their names. I needed to confirm and put the question out there on a Gomeroi Facebook Site, and no one could assist. However I did eventually verify from documents.
DeleteUnita was a trindall, married a McMillan, my father's parents. Thomas Reid and Jeanie were my 5x great grandparents.
DeleteUnita went under trindall not Reid. She married George McMillan. My father's parents. Thomas Reid and Jeanie were my 4x great grandparents.
DeleteIt is interesting that they say Agnus Towns was not a Gomeroi woman when there is a photo of her and she is. What were the names of Annie's brothers and sisters? Was there a Daisy?
DeleteCan anyone tell me what the totem would have been for Annie Reid from Jeanie who was with Thomas Reid?
DeleteHi my daughter is a descendant of Susan Slater (born in Coonabarabran, 1839). Susan's father was Thomas Slater and Her mother was listed somewhere as Sarah an Aboriginal woman
ReplyDeleteMy daughter is trying to find her dads side of the family
If anyone has any information at all on the family can you please contact me on Nicole.alexander@kari.org.au
Hi Nicole, I don't know if you've had any leads in finding what you are after since posting this, but I believe the husband of Sarah, and Susan's father, was actually Edward Slater and not Thomas Slater. I am a descendant trying to find more too, so I hope this assists.
DeleteHi, My children too are descendants from Sarah Slater. I am trying to gather more information as well. Have you gone further with your search?
DeleteDo you know if James Swan had any children my great grand father was Walter Swan he was with my great grandmother Annie Icorn (unsure of spelling) they had kids any help would be greatly appreciated
DeleteSusan Slater who married a Chatfield ???
DeleteHi Nicole. I’m a descendant of Susan Slater. I to am trying to find more information on Sarah her mother. There are some connections on ancestry to a John and Mary Ann in Cowra area. Not sure how accurate it is.
DeleteHi im kim marie campbell descendant of the tighes and cains from coonababran and moree and walget my grandfather was teddy cain (cobber) and grandmother was mary jane my mother was patty francis tighe
ReplyDeleteMary Jane Cain was my 3x ggm
DeleteHi im kim marie campbell descendant of the tighes and cains from coonababran and moree and walget my grandfather was teddy cain (cobber) and grandmother was mary jane my mother was patty francis tighe
ReplyDeleteI am interested in any information regading Sarah Hughes born in Coonaburabran circa 1834-1859. Any information would be much appreciated
ReplyDeleteI believe she is my great grandmother would be interested in connecting my name is Robyn Lucas
DeleteI am interested in any information regading Sarah Hughes born in Coonaburabran circa 1834-1859. Any information would be much appreciated
ReplyDeleteSarah Hughes (born in Coonabarabran circa 1834-1859) I do believe could be my great grandmother I can be contacted at info@misociety.com.au Robyn Lucas
DeleteSarah Hughes (born in Coonabarabran circa 1834-1859) I do believe could be my great grandmother I can be contacted at info@misociety.com.au Robyn Lucas
DeleteI am interested in any information regading Sarah Hughes born in Coonaburabran circa 1834-1859. Any information would be much appreciated
ReplyDeleteHi I am a dependent of "Harry Doolan" listed above,(he is my Grandmother's Great Grandfather or Great Great Grandfather) I'm trying to gather more information on him his 7 Children and Wife Mary Anne/Ann Green. Would anyone be able to direct me please?
ReplyDeleteBob Doolan and Tincan had Harry Doolan (born) 1855 in Pilliga, (died) 4th Aug 1917 in Pilliga (buried) Pilliga Mission, who married Mary Ann Greene/Green/Doolan/West aka Emma (born) 1849 in Wee Waa (died) 7th Sept 1929 (buried) on Pilliga Mission, who had my GreatGrandmother Amy Doolan. I only know of one brother of Amy's his name is Arthur. Hope to hear from you. Maureen.
DeleteI am trying to gather information on Nellie Reid who passed away in 1913 at Cuttabri. Nellie's mother was Annie Reid. Annie's mother was Jeanie/Jena/Jinny Reid who was married to Thomas Reid. Reid was also spelt Reed and Read. There was an Aboriginal Reserve at Cuttabri (Reserve Number AR37420), located at the Junction of the Namoi River and Coghill Creek. The Reserve was in operation from 1904 to 1939. Thank you - Jane - Email Address jrgr1329@bigpond.com
ReplyDeleteI am trying to find any information at all on the Reid Family who lived at Cuttabri. I know that Nellie Reid lived at Werah and Nellie's mother was Annie Reid. Annie Reid was a domestic on the property Weeta Waa. I believe Annie's mother was Jinny Reid who was married to Thomas Reid. Thank you
ReplyDeleteHi James,
ReplyDeleteI am trying to find out if I am related to Sarah Murphy on the list and just wondering if you recongnise the name Sarah Murphy born 1846. trying to find out some info on her to see if right person. Thankyou
Native title is a joke. They have white people claiming to be connected to our people and land......... shame on you wannabes.
ReplyDeleteLooking for information on James Phoenix AKA Yellow Jemmy he is not on the list but hoping someone can help... born Mooki River, Liverpool Plains around 1830
ReplyDeleteDid you ever find out any information?
DeleteHi I'm from Walgett I'm
ReplyDeleteLooking for info on Fred Parker,did he have any kids.
Hi we are trying to complete our family tree and are trying to find out more information of Sarah Gatehouse (born in Aberdeen, 1835) and her descendants Elizabeth (Eliza) Griffin, Lena (Cissy) Beale, Sarah Ackbar Khan. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Ashley Clark
ReplyDeleteHey Ashley,
DeleteI am a decendant of Sarah Gatehouse, she is my 4x Great Grandmother. I have a family history book that mentions Elizabeth (Eliza) Griffin and Lena Beale. Email me at heeeidi93@gmail.com and I can send you the info!
Thanks, Heidi
Would love family information pls
Deletetrying to find mother of susanna south some say surname maiden name of hill , people say george hammond of bingara was her father and her mother died when she was 7 another 1/2 sister was adopted by the perfrement family of tingha so when her mother died she went to live with john and louisa perfrement
ReplyDeleteWould anyone have any info of Minnie bond/Bell nee Vincent? Apparently she was a homeroom woman born about 1885 in St George. She was removed to Deebing Creek Mission (outside of Ipswich) and she married Stanley Bell. She was later on sent to Cherbourg and she married John Bond (A Wakka Wakka Man). Would anyone know of her?
ReplyDeleteHi just wondering if you got any reply on Minnie Vincent. I would be very Interested to hear on any information you recieved or have. Minnie would be my great grandmother.
DeleteDarren
DeleteI have a small amount of info on Minnie but I am also wanting to know more.
DeleteWhat is homeroom Woman?
DeleteSorry I meant to say Gomeroi instead of homeroom in the previous comment (auto correction)
ReplyDeleteHi, would anyone have any more info on Billy Wightman? I've just found out he's my great, great grandfather and would like to trace some more heritage. His daughter Amy Whiteman was my father's great grandmother.
ReplyDeleteHi I have in the last year only found out that I have aboriginal heritage. My grandmother was born I assume in Gunnedah to the Novely family. Bill or William was her father or grandfather, it is unknown where he was born as he had no birth Certificate. Any help on this would be helpful as other family have come up with blocks due to fire damage of files.
ReplyDeleteHello,
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone here know if the 'Julia Jane Saunders, (born in Wee Waa 1845) listed here is the same Julia Saunders who had a common law marriage with William Robinson and was the grandmother of Con Colleano the Wizard of the Wire? Julia Robinson nee Saunders died in a terrible house fire in Narrabri on 29 October 1909. Is she the same person as listed above as part of the Gomeroi People Native Title Claim Group?
I am trying to find out any information on my Great Grandmother Weeta and her mother Sarah/Sara - Weeta was born in Wingen or so I am lead to believe and possibly her mother Sara/h was connected to Weeta Waa and her surname was Burris or Burri at the time my Great Grandmother was born in 1890 or thereabouts. Weeta was born on a station in Wingen that is now a Horse Stud - no records at the Stud/Old Station as I have asked.
ReplyDeleteLooking for information on Saunders family from Collarenebri
ReplyDeleteCollarenebri Cemetery listing available - https://www.walgett.nsw.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Burial-and-Reservation-Listing-Collarenebri.pdf
ReplyDeleteHi I would love some information on Nance Morgan who i believe to be my grate grate grate grandmother and her brother Edward Morgan they where born in dungalear Station
ReplyDeleteThank you
Hi. I am also very interested in the REID/READ indigenous peoples from Cuttabri. Would anyone know if Albert Edward Reid/Read was related to this family line. Albert served with the 33rd Battalion AIF in WW1 and was killed in action on 29/11/1917. I have digital copies of his Enlistment Form where someone has penned across his surname, making it “Read” instead of “Reid”. In his own hand writing Albert spelt his name with an ‘i’ (Reid). Thank you. Christine.
ReplyDeleteHi,
ReplyDeleteI'm tracing my Neil line. My Great Grandfather was Walter Ernest Neil born at Come By Station 1880. Maybe his mother/wife/sister is Betsy Neil who ended up combining children with Henry Arthur Yates. There's a William Neil in the mix who may have been Walters Dad & Betsy's ex husband? Walter moved to Balgownie where he married Henrietta Charlotte Summers. Any connection to relatives of Walter would be awesome. Thanks Rani
Hi my Name is Jolene Doolan, Harry Doolan is my Great Great Grand Father, My Grand mother May Doolan is the Daughter Of William Doolan, Harry And Mary Ann's Son
ReplyDeleteYaama u mob I'm tracing Tommy Pitt family tree if there is anyone who has any information pls email me embrace2400@outlook.com thanks
ReplyDeleteYaama just wondering if Thomas John Blacklock listed above was the Husband of Isabella Dingwell? Or Isabella and Thomas (snr) son?
ReplyDeleteExtract from the Aus-Koori Mailing list dated 15 May 2001
ReplyDelete"Mary Anne TIDSWELL m Thomas BRINDLEY 1852 place unknown in NSW
they had one son Richard J, b 1853, Father Thomas died 1858
Mary Anne TIDSWELL m Alexander DINGWELL 1859 Coonamble
[his father died Merri Merri Creek 26.2.1869, Mother Christina McPHAIL]
they had three children:
Isobella b Dubbo 1862 m Thomas BLACKLOCK at Coonamble 1880
Emma b Dubbo 1864 m Henry WILLIAMS at Coonamble 1880
Alexander b 1868 Coonabarabran
Isobella & Thomas BLACKLOCK are on the 1881 census living in Happy Corner
Coonabarabran they area listed having 4 HC males and 5 HC Females in the
household. I can only assume HC stands for Half Castes.
I have photos of my great grandmother
[their daughter Mary Ann Emma Jane BLACKLOCK] b Coonabarabran 1887.
Its clear that she is part Aboriginal. I was told Happy Corner was
very much an aboriginal area at this time. Can any one confirm this?
Mary Ann Emma Jane BLACKLOCK m Francis John TRIBE 1911
Warialda/Coonamble.
Their children in order of birth:
Joseph Alexander b 1881 Walgett m Lucy BATES Boggarbri d Coonabarabran 1944
James Thomas b 1884 Coonamble m Grace KEITH 1915 Sydney
Mary Ann Emma Jane BLACKLOCK m Francis John TRIBE 1911 Warialda/Coonamble.
Alice M 1890 Coonabarabran m Norman T H MILSON
Charles W b 1893 Coonabarabran died Glen Innes 1931
Daisy B b 1897 Coonabarabran m Narrabri George A RUTTLEY
Arthur Hector b 1905 [he had red hair] m 1926 Eva Georgina ROSS"
Thank you. that actually cleared a fair bit up for me. I'm one of Arthur's grandchildren and he did have carrot red hair and always wore a Stetson hat.
DeleteI am Maryanne Blacklock, I am the grandaughter of James Thomas 1884. Maby this is where my name came from.
DeleteHi Maryanne (Cous). I've met a couple of Arthurs nieces in the past couple of years. My mother, Arthurs youngest child passed this past Feb. The last of his children. Am hoping to go to Burra Bee Dee to visit Thomas' grave in the new year and pay my respects.
DeleteHey Paul Ive been trying to get a hold of the koori mailing list this extract was taken from. If you could please give me more information I would greatly appreciate it. This info is a little hard to read and process (old lady eyes and brain)
DeleteThank you again for your assistance
The original entry is available here -
Deletehttps://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?searchemails=Tidswell&listname=aus-koori&searchcontent=on
I have also extracted the entry as below -
https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?searchemails=Tidswell&listname=aus-koori&searchcontent=on
The original archived entry is available here
https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?searchemails=Tidswell&listname=aus-koori&searchcontent=on
I have extracted the entry below -
From: L & K Kingston
To: AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 8:28 PM
Subject: [AUS-Koori] RE Looking for a little HELP please
Hello Listers,
Can Some kind soul help me with the above names:
Mary Anne TIDSWELL m Thomas BRINDLEY 1852 place unknown in NSW
they had one son Richard J, b 1853, Father Thomas died 1858
Mary Anne TIDSWELL m
Alexander DINGWELL 1859 Coonamble [his father died Merri Merri Creek 26.2.1869][ Mother Christina McPHAIL]
they had three children:
Isobella b Dubbo 1862 m Thomas BLACKLOCK at Coonamble 1880
Emma b Dubbo 1864 m Henry WILLIAMS at Coonamble 1880
Alexander b 1868 Coonabarabran
Isobella & Thomas BLACKLOCK are on the 1881 census living in Happy Corner
Coonabarabran they area listed having 4 HC males and 5 HC Females in the
household. I can only assume HC stands for Half Castes.
I have photos of my great grandmother [their daughter Mary Ann Emma Jane
BLACKLOCK] b Coonabarabran 1887. Its clear that she is part
Aboriginal. I was told Happy Corner was very much an aboriginal area at
this time. Can any one confirm this?
Mary Ann Emma Jane BLACKLOCK m Francis John TRIBE 1911
Warialda/Coonamble.
Their children in order of birth:
Joseph Alexander b 1881 Walgett m Lucy BATES Boggarbri d Coonabarabran 1944
James Thomas b 1884 Coonamble m Grace KEITH 1915 Sydney
Mary Ann Emma Jane BLACKLOCK m Francis John TRIBE 1911 Warialda/Coonamble.
Alice M 1890 Coonabarabran m Norman T H MILSON
Charles W b 1893 Coonabarabran died Glen Innes 1931
Daisy B b 1897 Coonabarabran m Narrabri George A RUTTLEY
Arthur Hector b 1905 [he had red hair] m 1926 Eva Georgina ROSS
What I want to know is, Do I believe the census, were they both HC or
was, one of them was part aboriginal, I can't find any record of birth
of either Alexander or Mary Anne TIDSWELL.
Is this ring any bells for anybody, PLEASE HELP.
Any advice on where to look, would be great. Also these people must have
had family. Any cousin out there? I would love to know from what tribe they came,
the language etc.. I don't know how to go about finding out!
Also if you are connected with my family I have photos and other
information [on other members] I'm happy to share.
TIA Karen
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Hi I am doing my partners tree he is a Blacklock decedent of Thomas Blacklock & Isabella Dingwall if you could share any info or photos that would be fantastic, I might also be able to help you with some info.
DeleteMary Anne DINGWELL (nee TIDSWELL) died in Gunnedah in 1906. Her husband Alexander DINGWELL died at Merri Merri Creek about 30km west of Coonamble on 26th February 1869. On his death certificate registered at Coonabarabran his father’s name was also Alexander and his mother’s name was given as Christina.
DeleteName Reg No Year of Death Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
DINGWELL MARY A 8918 1906 ABORIGINAL 75 YRS GUNNEDAH GUNNEDAH
DINGWELL ALEXANDER 3587 1869 ALEXANDER CHRISTINA COONABARABRAN
Mary Anne TIDSWELL was an aboriginal woman born circa 1831 around the Wellington / Dubbo area.
Name Reg No Year of Birth Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
ABORIGINAL MARY TYDSWALL 2940 Vol 31A 1836 JOSEPH Aboriginal UNKNOWN WELLINGTON
Joseph TYDSWALL was a shepherd at Banggalgambi and Mary was 10 years old when she was baptised on 8th July 1846 in the Parish of Wellington County Wellington.
There does not seem to be a Death or Burial record for Joseph TIDSWELL/TYDSWALL. He was a CONVICT. He came out to Australia aboard the convict transport ship Albion in 1828. He received his Ticket of Leave in 1833 at Bathurst.
Mary Anne DINGWELL (nee TIDSWELL) died in Gunnedah in 1906. Her husband Alexander DINGWELL died at Merri Merri Creek about 30km west of Coonamble on 26th February 1869. On his death certificate registered at Coonabarabran his father’s name was also Alexander and his mother’s name was given as Christina MCPHALL .
Name Reg No Year of Death Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
DINGWELL MARY A 8918 1906 ABORIGINAL 75 YRS GUNNEDAH GUNNEDAH
DINGWELL ALEXANDER 3587 1869 ALEXANDER CHRISTINA COONABARABRAN
Mary Anne TIDSWELL was an aboriginal woman born circa 1831 around the Wellington / Dubbo area.
Name Reg No Year of Birth Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
ABORIGINAL MARY TYDSWALL 2940 Vol 31A 1836 JOSEPH Aboriginal UNKNOWN WELLINGTON
Joseph TYDSWALL was a shepherd at Banggalgambi and Mary was 10 years old when she was baptised on 8th July 1846 in the Parish of Wellington County Wellington.
There does not seem to be a Death or Burial record for Joseph TIDSWELL/TYDSWALL. He was a CONVICT. He came out to Australia aboard the convict transport ship Albion in 1828. He received his Ticket of Leave in 1833 at Bathurst.
In 1848 he marries Mary McGINNIS at Montefiores Church of England Wellington district. There are no children from this marriage.
Reg No Year Groom's Family Name Groom's Given Name(s) Bride's Family Name(s) Bride's Given Name(s) District
293 Vol 33 1848 TYDSWELL JOSEPH MCGINNIS MARY WELLINGTON
Name Reg No Year of Death Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District
TETSELL JOSEPH 665 1889 JANE SYDNEY
Alexander DINGWELL was probably born circa 1830-1840.
As far as “other” deaths of Alexander DINGWELL up to 1925 there is only one other in NSW. He died at Annandale in Sydney in 1902. How he fits into the picture is unknown.
DINGWELL ALEXANDER 12609 1902 ALEXANDER MCPHALL ANNANDALE NSW
There is the possibility that our Alexander DINGWELL was a convict, because there was one by the name of Alexander DINGWALL who arrived into NSW in 1837.
Alexander DINGWALL convict was born in Aberdeenshire SCOTLAND circa 1816. He was 20 years old when sentenced in April 1836. He came out to the colony in 1837 aboard the convict transport ship Norfolk. The Norfolk departed from Spithead, Portsmouth, Hampshire ENGLAND on the 27th October 1836 and arrived at Port Jackson NSW on the 12th February 1837. He worked in the Mudgee district until he obtained his Ticket of Leave in 1843 and his Passport on 24th November 1844.
Mudgee is 60 km East of Wellington. Seeing that Mudgee is not far from Wellington. The convict Alexander DINGWALL that came out on the Norfolk in 1837 would have been about 42 years old and fairly close to the Wellington region where Mary Anne TIDSWELL was married in 1859.
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Myrtle Elizabeth Barter Hall
1905 - ?
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1909 - 1978
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1917 - 1957
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